Comments on: Top 5 green MPVs and crossovers

By: Anthony Maturin

Anthony Maturin — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 23:44:53 +0000

a) As we head towards carbon neutral societies obviously we will phase out nearly all use of fossil fuels. The hybrid is sort of on track for that scenario, the electric vehicle is certainly nearly there provided it can be produced with no fossil fuel input. Neither take account of situations which will arise as the earth warms and remaining populations find themselves crowded into the habitable bits that remain, and all resources become scarce and contested.

Remember that all these cars come from a rich Western mind set which will quite soon be non viable in the face of climate change caused disruptions. When there will be more serious questions to answer than ‘which car?’, when ownership of any car will likely be a luxury available to a minority.

b) who says that, given the numbers of hungry kids in the world (for example) any of us has the right to a car? What has a fancy vehicle to do with the equitable sharing of humanity’s resources?

Anthony Maturin
anthonymaturin.net.nz

By: John Coleman

John Coleman — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:39:07 +0000

PS 5 seater
Volkswagen Golf Plus 1.6 TDi Bluemotion 65.7 mpg 114g CO2

By: John Coleman

John Coleman — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:24:25 +0000

Its great emissions are comming down recently so I add an update:-
7 seaters :
Renault Grand Scenic 1.6dCi Dynamic TomTom with start/stop 115g CO2 64.2mpg or 117g 62.8mpg. Volkswagen Touran 1.6TDi Bluemotion 61.4 mpg 121g Co2
5 seaters
Renault Grand Modus 1.5dCi 68.9 mpg 109g CO2
Nissan Note made in sunderland! 1.5dCi 67.3 mpg 110g Co2
Skoda Roomster 1.2TDi Greenline 67.3mpg 109g CO2
Vauxhall Meriva 1.3 CDTi Ecoflex with stop start 68.9 mpg 109g CO2

By: Calvin

Calvin — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:04:35 +0000

Come on what a useless list – none of these cars are people carriers, other than by definition all cars carry people. This segment to my mind is Alhambra, Galaxy, Espace, Voyager etc – 6 or 7 people with some bags not a boxy car that can carry 5 and have a tiny little boot for a toothbrush or two. Put people carriers in this section please.

By: Faye Sunderland

Faye Sunderland — Tue, 03 May 2011 16:20:01 +0000

For those looking for seven seat vehicles see: http://www.thegreencarwebsite.co.uk/blog/index.php/top-5-seven-seat-vehicles/.

By: Michael

Michael — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:49:07 +0000

I’ve been trying for years to get this question answered. Most won’t really take luggage as well. Ended up with Mitsubishi Grandis. Reasonable economy. Took 4 adults and 2 children comfortably across France with luggage averaging 42+mpg. {test rated same as Grand Scenic!] The claimed mpg of most vehicles is way out. [Or am I a lead foot?] I agree with Corinne. Still waiting for a test by someone with kids and clobber.

By: Paul Nelson

Paul Nelson — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:50:50 +0000

Try this which is a real people carrier and really green with zero emmissions.

http://www.alliedelectric.co.uk/content/vehicles/electric_passenger_vehicles/peugeot_eexpert_tepee/

By: Graeme R

Graeme R — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:25:22 +0000

How about listing ‘green as possible’ automatics as there are now some very efficient torque converter, CVT, dual clutch and automated-manual options around, mostly with diesel engines, with CO2 coming down and economy going up with every new generation? Info on autos is very hard to find on consumer sites.

By: Corrine Shimmon

Corrine Shimmon — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:59:16 +0000

No, they’re not all people carriers, they’re all mpv’s- And actually, a zafira doesn’t work as a people carrier either (I have one!) When it seats more than 5, you have zero luggage space- have you ever travelled with no luggage? We need a list of actual 7-seater cars. Zafiras are only designed to have the ‘boot’ seats used occasionally.

By: Sue

Sue — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:12:05 +0000

I agree with the above comments. Three teenagers and assorted friends to carry requires a people carrier with seven seats.