Comments on: Honda believes fuel cells are the future

By: bloom energy stock symbol

bloom energy stock symbol — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 04:09:39 +0000

a little off topic… has anyone see the 60 minutes show last night with Bloom Energy?

By: Graham Cooper

Graham Cooper — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:05:59 +0000

It seems that so much hot air about Hydrogen-powered fuel-cells is coming out of California, it could be captured and used to drive a big fleet of Sterling-engine cars or a power station! California & Schwarznegger is why Honda is still promoting the idea.

Remember, no motorised vehicle is as economical or as ecological as a bicycle.

By: David E. Bruderly

David E. Bruderly — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:19:30 +0000

Continued hysterical and inaccurate attacks on the production and use of hydrogen as a motor fuel is not only counterproductive, but stupid. Battery EVs can fill a niche; EV advocates should stick to providing honest and accurate information on EV battery performance and cost; consumer demand will stimulate mass production. HFC EVs will fill the performance gap that battery EVs will never solve. Blending renewable hydrogen with compressed natural gas is practical and affordable today. H-CNG pathways will drive the transition to renewable hydrogen fuel cell and battery electric drives. Why attack Honda with inaccurate rhetoric when strong support for battery electric vehicles already exists? BTW — a fuel cell is an electrochemical device is basically a refuelable battery. Focus energy on the real problem — stimulating creating consumer demand for ALL non-petroleum solutions.

By: Casey Verdant

Casey Verdant — Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:14:16 +0000

Detroit has a chance to show the nation and the world that they’re listening to the cries for greater fuel efficiency! The Ford Focus, the Toyota FT-CH, and the Honda CR-Z hybrid are all great eco-friendly cars of the sort Americans are now demanding: let’s hope for more like them as the Auto Show continues.

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By: Doug Korthof

Doug Korthof — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:25:32 +0000

Honda lies AGAIN. How can you “develop” H2 production, when it takes electric energy to make and compress it??

There’s no shortcut to the fact that it takes more than 60 kWh to make the H2 equivalent of 35 kWh of electric, and then, you only get 30% of it back from the fuel cell stack. So the 60 kWh only yields 18 kWh of energy in the FCX, worse than a gasoline engine.

A battery EV does ten times better: traveling up to 6 miles on each kWh, up to 200 miles on 35 kWh, more than 240 miles on the 60kWh that would make 1 kg of H2.

Then, there’s the problem that you have to carry technical-grade Oxygen for the fuel cell stack to last more than 3 years!

Explain, Honda, why you don’t let the FCX stay on the street for more than a few months! We’re still driving pre-2003 Toyota RAV4-EV using NiMH batteries, no fuel cell car has ever gone more than 3 years on the same stack — it just can’t because of Carbon impurities in the O2 it takes in from the ambient air.

Honda Lies.

By: Alex

Alex — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:25:18 +0000

Hydrogen fueled cars at the moment are more likely PR, not the real effort for making them commercially available on the market